Thinking of a new rig

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Thinking of a new rig

Post#1 » 08 May 2009, 10:11

So i am starting to think about getting a new rig setup my current rig is an Athlon X2 3800 w/ 2gig mem. I will be using it mostly for gaming (wow, DIII and the odd fps). I usually do a bit of mild overclocking but dont push things too far. Price is a concern and i was looking at 3 options for cpu/chipset and not sure which is the best value:

Core i7:
CPU: Core i7 920 $449
Motherboard: ASUS P6T SE $339
Memory: OCZ DDR3 PC3-10666 i7 Edition 3x2GB OCZ3X1333LV6GK $169
Cooling: Zalman CNPS9900-Cu $94

Total: $1051

AMD X4:
CPU: Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition $409
Motherboard: ASUS M4A79T Deluxe Motherboard $335
Memory: Patriot PC3-10666 2x2GB DDR3 PVS34G1333LLK $149
Cooling: Zalman CNPS9500A $69

Total: $960

AMD X3:
CPU: Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition $225
Motherboard: ASUS M4A79T Deluxe Motherboard $335
Memory: Patriot PC3-10666 2x2GB DDR3 PVS34G1333LLK $149
Cooling: Zalman CNPS9500A $69

Total: $778

To go along with one of those options i was thinking:

Case: Lian Li PC-60FW Black $189
Power: Corsair TX-650 650W Power Supply $179
Graphics: 2x Gigabyte Radeon HD4770 512MB $169ea

Total: $706

I'll just rip out my hdd and other peripherals from my current rig. My monitor is a dell 24" which i want to run at 1920 x 1200 and i alos run a second old 17" lcd on the side for my web browser when im playing.

I'm also not sure what OS i will be running. Probably either Vista 64 or maybe Win7 64 RC if its stable enough.
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Re: Thinking of a new rig?

Post#2 » 08 May 2009, 10:32

The Core i7 will blow the AMD away in every way, stick with that.

Also if you can afford to go up a notch with the GFX and get a 4870 or an Nvidia GTX260 or something around there you will thank yourself later.
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Re: Thinking of a new rig

Post#3 » 08 May 2009, 11:16

probably cant afford a core i7 - will have to see.

as for the gfx i think crossfire 4770 will be better than a single 260 or 4890
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Post#4 » 08 May 2009, 14:31

Demandread wrote:as for the gfx i think crossfire 4770 will be better than a single 260 or 4890

This seems to think so, too.
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Post#5 » 09 May 2009, 19:11

been thinking i really should try get an i7 and trying to cut down on the costs, there is a fairly cheep DFI mATX X58 board not sure about it though but it would help cut costs together with a smaller case, single GPU and a smaller PSU

CPU: Core i7 920 $449
Motherboard: DFI LanParty JR-X58-T3H6 $329
Memory: OCZ DDR3 PC3-10666 i7 Edition 3x2GB OCZ3X1333LV6GK $169
Cooling: Zalman CNPS9900-Cu $94
Case: Antec Mini P180 $129
Power: Corsair HX-650 520W Power Supply $159
Graphics: Gainward GTX260+ 896MB $305

Total: $1634
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Post#6 » 09 May 2009, 20:16

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Post#7 » 09 May 2009, 22:26

I built an i7 PC the other week, seeing as your looking to cut costs I honestly havent had any issues with the stock cooler, in my case which is like half grill anyway its near silent, the only time it makes noticable noise is when converting video files. Personally I plan on OCing down the track and will sort out better cooling then, for now though stock seems fine, even running TF2 + WAR at the same time didnt push the CPU over 50%.
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Post#8 » 13 May 2009, 14:51

Try and get the i7. Save a bit longer if you have to.
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Re: Thinking of a new rig

Post#9 » 13 May 2009, 16:53

So doing what i normally do in these situation i convince myself its worth spending more $$ and getting something ill be happy with rather than cutting costs (only minimal begging from wife involved :wink: ). I will definitely go with the i7 an ive decided on most of the other parts i want. The last remaining choices are the motherboard and the graphics card.

Motherboard choices are the Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R or the DFI LanParty DK-X58-T3EH6. The DFI board is more expensive by about $60 but I have had good experience with DFI and they overclock well. The other advantage is the x16 PCIE slots are further apart for better cooling.

And finally i have no idea what to do with the graphics cards. If i wanted to i could just afford a Gainward GTX295 but its a big expense and may mean spending more on a bigger PSU. Other than that i was looking at a GTX 285 or 275 or a crossfire 4870 config or 260 SLI. Reading up i think crossfire or SLI will just end in a headache sorting out. I also have a 9600GT i can run a second monitor from if I want.
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Post#10 » 13 May 2009, 17:39

Demandread wrote:Reading up i think crossfire .. will just end in a headache sorting out

That was one of the easiest things to set up on this machine, at least with the 8.x series drivers and Vista x64..
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Re: Thinking of a new rig

Post#11 » 13 May 2009, 17:57

and SLI?
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Post#12 » 13 May 2009, 18:39

Demandread wrote:and SLI?
really SLI and crossfire are both easy to setup. 2, 3 or 4 cards in most situations they just plug straight in - the problem as you suggested above is additional power requirements and also heat management - if ur on a budget and don't want to have to worry about those things then just put the money into a decent single gpu. If you want to run a second monitor most current cards will handle it quite well or you can also look at the option of SLI/crossfire with an onboard chipset which will allow an independant output to a second monitor, both AMD and nVidia are making chipsets capable of this now and for quite reasonable money.
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Re: Thinking of a new rig

Post#13 » 13 May 2009, 18:58

What sort of power would i need minimum for either SLI 260's or Crossfire 4870's? bout 750W or would i get away with 620W?
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Post#14 » 14 May 2009, 09:06

from the reading I did a 620 is enough for 2x 4870, your right on the ud3r tho, I went with the ud4 for the option of future ram upgrading but with a 4870 in there, there is only a few mm between it and where the next card would be sitting, I imagine it would be somewhat of a cooling pain with stock vidcard cooling.
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Post#15 » 14 May 2009, 09:19

Demandread wrote:What sort of power would i need minimum for either SLI 260's or Crossfire 4870's? bout 750W or would i get away with 620W?

I run 2x GTX260 (216sp) on a 750w corsair PSU thinking that I need at least that. I have 2x60gb SSD's, 2x 300GB velociraptors, Q9450 o/c'd on water and the most I can draw (checked with oscilloscope) is 405watts and that's running 3dmark loop.

620w would be fine as long as it's a good manufacture with solid 12v rails.

Also nvidia recently did a write up and said Core i7 was overkill for gaming. If you do photoshop and video editting then sure that platform smashes any of the competition, but for gaming nvidia was saying a Q9xx and 4gb ram with a good video card is all most of us really need.
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